. >> shannon: there are all kinds of fiscal issues with the budget, with sequester and the debt ceiling, not far off. have you offered a number of ways that you think the federal government could be cutting back. your office is good at looking at budgets and plans. you have note aid number of things that could have been done n. liu of closing the white house to public visitors, but did you have bipartisan crossover. >> i had bipartisan crossover because they're getting ready to run for election. there is a game play in the senate. this administration wants to show the american public that we can't cut $44 billion between now and september 30 without them experiencing massive pain. they have every intention to make it hurt to get the point that we need to spends every penny we are spending. which is absolutely ludicrous. it's a shame they are doing that because a lot of things -- we are going to have air traffic control towers shut down. they are not shut down because they are too expensive. on average, they cost $wo.3 million less per year to operate. they are shut down to come back wit